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Eunice Dunlap's avatar

Amen! Amen! I’ll let you know when we do a drag Eucharist! And incidentally I was one of those who benefited greatly from those long rectangular blocks of cheese and jugs of peanut butter!!!πŸ˜†πŸ’–πŸ’–πŸ’–πŸ™πŸΌπŸ™πŸΌπŸ™πŸΌπŸŒˆπŸŒˆπŸŒˆπŸŒˆ

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Eunice Dunlap's avatar

Good advice! Thank you!

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Elizabeth Kaeton's avatar

To be clear this was not a Drag Eucharist. It was Disco. Very different

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Eunice Dunlap's avatar

I know. Just saying it inspired me to do a drag Eucharist.

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Elizabeth Kaeton's avatar

Please don't. Drag is not my thing - I have some serious feminist issues with some styles of Drag - but it's not a bad thing. Indeed, it's a part - one small part of several parts of the fusion of the whole LGBTQ+ disco/determination/liberation movement. That's like taking a Dream Catcher and holding it up to represent all of Indigenous American culture and spirituality. It's one part, but there is so much more than just that one thing. Another example would be when a Caucasian person wears cornrow braids. Not cool.

I know your intentions are good, and this may sound harsh, but straight people should not be trying to represent LGBTQ+ culture any more than I would try to represent Indigenous American or African American culture. It's called acculturation or cultural appropriation. It's often well-intended, but can be experienced as negative without the proper understanding or respect, or input from that particular demographic.

So, do a Disco Mass. Absolutely, yes. Include Drag Queens. Absolutely, yes. But, also include all the other influences: African American, Latino, Italian, Urban, R&B, Funk, Pop, with a fusion of musical instruments.

Click on the link and watch the whole Disco Mass - which was not planned by the Caucasion heterosexual rector, but rather planned by a Black woman who is in her 70s and was part of the Disco Scene in NYC, along with some of her choir members who are Latino, African American, Gay, Straight, Queer, Trans, etc. Watch and pay attention before you get out over your skis. All with the best of intentions.

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Eunice Dunlap's avatar

Will do. This isn’t something I would do alone. Not sure what form it will take. Working with PeeDee Equality here.

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Elizabeth Kaeton's avatar

Be very clear about your theology. First. And, get permission from your Bishop for liturgy and music before you even approach PeeDee Equality. Marginalized people do not need one more occasion for the institutional church to reject them. Again. If the bishop rejects the service, she will not be rejecting them but the service. However, they will experience it as a personal rejection. So, get clear about A DISCO Mass. Show her the service at St. Mark's. Show her my sermon. Tell her your personal theology. And then, sit down with your local folks and start all over again. Let things come from them. You be the vehicle to give them voice.

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John Michael Sophos's avatar

Wish I had known about this, I would have loved to have gone with, JMS

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Elizabeth Kaeton's avatar

You would have loved it.

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John Michael Sophos's avatar

Wish I had known about this, I would have loved to have gone with, JMS

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